i don't know if it was. you said it was educational and i was trying to think of the ways it can be educational. and what i felt about it how i feel after missions sometimes
but that can be personal so i didn't want to come off as rude i know we're not close
[ Technically, right? Even if he's genuinely curious about what other people feel about their situation. ]
i don't know if they were random or not, but i think missions can make us feel exposed or like they're trying to teach us a lesson sometimes they can be more personal for people
[ He pauses. ]
is there a place like the dregs where you're from?
[Okay, so maybe heโs not hallucinating or delusions of importance that this might have been specifically a lesson for him in some way? Kind of validating. Also, kind of creepy.]
Yes. There is Piltover, where I live, and there is Zaun, also known as the Undercity. You can probably tell where this is going.
I've been to Zaun a few times; no more than a handful. Never the worst parts of it, but from what I've been told, it's not dissimilar to the Dregs car.
there's places like that where i'm from too. a lot of inequality over time for different people. it's not as bad in my town as it was on the train but there's social differences. you get friends with parents who don't make a lot of money
you don't talk about it
[ And it's weird to talk about now, the way you just--know things aren't equal about the people around you, but what can you do? He has rich friends. One of their shared friends also lives in a dump of an apartment building. Gorgug doesn't have to care about money--he lives between those two lives. In a tree. ]
did it make you feel bad? my rich friend was a neon so i don't think it was on purpose but i guess you had some feelings about that kind of thing before you got here?
[He canโt even comprehend a kind of person who could go through living in the Dregs and come out of it not feeling empathy. He still doesnโt have to like or agree with Silco to realize that his motivation for everything he does, is because of his empathy.]
I do. Trying to make things better for the people of Zaun was the last thing I remember doing.
[ He's nice. It's good to have nice people around. ]
i hope you have some success when you get back that kind of thing sounds like a big job where people will try and stop you or get in the way or you're gonna burn out but maybe you can prepare while you're here. i don't know how but
i guess i saw my own flaws on that train that i need to work on, so maybe you did too?
I already know I fail. Someone else from Runeterra knows what happens after that moment. Not only do I fail, no one knows where I go afterward. Not much for me to look forward to, really.
Everyone has biases they're aware of. And even more they didn't know they had until something changes.
[If this was in person, this is where he'd sigh and sit his face in his hands. He'd probably let more information fly if he was in person, he has looser lips than fingers.]
[ Truthfully, he's been sharing a lot more than Gorgug expected him to. And the fact he has makes Gorgug think he should be honest, too. Try to. ]
i'm no good at acting. and it's good to know people personally because nobody wants to be open about what they know
i already knew both of those but [ ... ] the second one is hard too when you're not really good at speaking to people
[ Says the guy speaking to someone right now. But that's the thing--he feels awkward even now. He felt awkward when they met, except learning about hextech. And he feels especially awkward about his age against those older than him, the ways they'll judge him--might hold back on account of his age, or perhaps his character, while ignoring that his world is as much in danger as theirs. ]
but i'm glad we didn't leave with the train people's navigational shit. even if i don't know what the fuck happened at the end there with the riots
Do you mean during the mission? Were people withholding information from you?
[Because along with it being rude to Gorgug specifically, thatโs detrimental to their cause entirely. Something heโs prepared to take issue with, if thatโs the case. Even if Jayce himself wouldnโt actually consider himself an extrovert (even if everyone around him would), he has no problem with standing up for someone else who has issues with standing their ground.]
The riots were caused by Silco. His idea of a โrevolution.โ
do you think people were being open about what they found until they had to?
[ From what Gorgug knows, everyone involved with the sealed carriage had their own lips sealed until the last moment, once they were at a dead end at what to do next--save one guy, trying to use what they got in an exchange for information for themselves. Vanessa didn't speak up about the key, no one shared information until the end. Until they couldn't go any further with keeping it hushed. ]
[Not that he can speak much on it. His involvement was pretty sparse by comparison.]
From what I've seen from him, it's not mutually exclusive. He didn't like how the Dregs were treated, but even if you hand every person down there a knife, it doesn't mean they're going to get the peace they deserve.
[ Gorgug can understand where the question comes from, considering Jayce apparently wanted to help make a difference where he came from? But... ]
i think i'm way too stupid about that kind of stuff to actually know
[ He's got to be honest. But he also doesn't want to make the guy feel bad for asking? Or just give a non-answer, so... ]
but... i'm gonna guess a lot changes on most worlds if you give it enough time. some good stuff happens, but then a lot of bad stuff sticks around for longer?
i don't think it's a bad thing to try. if we're talking about us on the train and trying to help it out, i think that maybe it would help if we understood the people and what we had to work with exactly. making decisions about what to do before we had more information about rex and the king, for example, wasn't good. we were arguing about what to do without a bigger picture
but we also only had so much time to do anything. and there's around a 100 people so you probably have to pick your fights? decide how much you can do?
It wasn't that I was trying to solve it in a week, but everything kept escalating... Like a bad pipe job. One part bursts, you fix that part, but then another piece bursts further down the line.
Two people from Runeterra arrived here after dying. I don't even know how that would work, even if I let myself run away with theories about spacial and temporal displacement. Bringing someone back to life just isn't off the table, somehow?
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if it's okay to ask, did it get you thinking about what future missions will be like? what you will have to do or put up with to succeed?
i'm asking because i think about it. i guess a lot of us do?
but that mission made me think about stuff a lot more
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how i feel after missions sometimes
but that can be personal so i didn't want to come off as rude
i know we're not close
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Sorry. I was being defensive.
[For someone who seems as open as he is, he's actually not used to discussing his feelings.]
It
[uh.]
this sounds stupid. Being in the Dregs felt like a lesson for me. Delusional, right? It was random assignments.
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[ Technically, right? Even if he's genuinely curious about what other people feel about their situation. ]
i don't know if they were random or not, but i think missions can make us feel exposed
or like they're trying to teach us a lesson
sometimes they can be more personal for people
[ He pauses. ]
is there a place like the dregs where you're from?
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Yes. There is Piltover, where I live, and there is Zaun, also known as the Undercity. You can probably tell where this is going.
I've been to Zaun a few times; no more than a handful. Never the worst parts of it, but from what I've been told, it's not dissimilar to the Dregs car.
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you don't talk about it
[ And it's weird to talk about now, the way you just--know things aren't equal about the people around you, but what can you do? He has rich friends. One of their shared friends also lives in a dump of an apartment building. Gorgug doesn't have to care about money--he lives between those two lives. In a tree. ]
did it make you feel bad?
my rich friend was a neon so i don't think it was on purpose
but i guess you had some feelings about that kind of thing before you got here?
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[He canโt even comprehend a kind of person who could go through living in the Dregs and come out of it not feeling empathy. He still doesnโt have to like or agree with Silco to realize that his motivation for everything he does, is because of his empathy.]
I do. Trying to make things better for the people of Zaun was the last thing I remember doing.
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i hope you have some success when you get back
that kind of thing sounds like a big job where people will try and stop you or get in the way or you're gonna burn out
but maybe you can prepare while you're here. i don't know how but
i guess i saw my own flaws on that train that i need to work on, so maybe you did too?
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Everyone has biases they're aware of. And even more they didn't know they had until something changes.
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i'm sorry
that really sucks for you
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[If this was in person, this is where he'd sigh and sit his face in his hands. He'd probably let more information fly if he was in person, he has looser lips than fingers.]
...What about you? What did you learn?
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i'm no good at acting. and it's good to know people personally because nobody wants to be open about what they know
i already knew both of those but [ ... ] the second one is hard too when you're not really good at speaking to people
[ Says the guy speaking to someone right now. But that's the thing--he feels awkward even now. He felt awkward when they met, except learning about hextech. And he feels especially awkward about his age against those older than him, the ways they'll judge him--might hold back on account of his age, or perhaps his character, while ignoring that his world is as much in danger as theirs. ]
but i'm glad we didn't leave with the train people's navigational shit. even if i don't know what the fuck happened at the end there with the riots
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[Because along with it being rude to Gorgug specifically, thatโs detrimental to their cause entirely. Something heโs prepared to take issue with, if thatโs the case. Even if Jayce himself wouldnโt actually consider himself an extrovert (even if everyone around him would), he has no problem with standing up for someone else who has issues with standing their ground.]
The riots were caused by Silco. His idea of a โrevolution.โ
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[ From what Gorgug knows, everyone involved with the sealed carriage had their own lips sealed until the last moment, once they were at a dead end at what to do next--save one guy, trying to use what they got in an exchange for information for themselves. Vanessa didn't speak up about the key, no one shared information until the end. Until they couldn't go any further with keeping it hushed. ]
like a real revolution or is he just a nut job?
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[Not that he can speak much on it. His involvement was pretty sparse by comparison.]
From what I've seen from him, it's not mutually exclusive. He didn't like how the Dregs were treated, but even if you hand every person down there a knife, it doesn't mean they're going to get the peace they deserve.
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[ Except he's still behind the idea of breaking their bigger weapons. ]
i'm glad we didn't try and keep the robot and their maps from them
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[This is a bit of a change of subject, but it spurred a new thought in him.]
Complex situations with class structures are too impossible to fix? Even if there's good intentions?
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i think i'm way too stupid about that kind of stuff to actually know
[ He's got to be honest. But he also doesn't want to make the guy feel bad for asking? Or just give a non-answer, so... ]
but...
i'm gonna guess a lot changes on most worlds if you give it enough time. some good stuff happens, but then a lot of bad stuff sticks around for longer?
i don't think it's a bad thing to try. if we're talking about us on the train and trying to help it out, i think that maybe it would help if we understood the people and what we had to work with exactly. making decisions about what to do before we had more information about rex and the king, for example, wasn't good. we were arguing about what to do without a bigger picture
but we also only had so much time to do anything. and there's around a 100 people so you probably have to pick your fights? decide how much you can do?
i think
it's really complicated
[ He tried to answer... he really did... ]
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Most adults don't know the answer to this either. You're not stupid.
Did I ever tell you? How I tried to fix this same sort of problem in my world, but in less than a week? It went about as well as you'd think.
Whatever we managed to accomplish, I think we helped, even if it was only a little.
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But at least he doesn't have to do it a second time. ]
helping them find a life off the train one day does change a lot.
but a week is a really short amount of time to do a lot of things. what made you think you could fix it in a week?
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It wasn't that I was trying to solve it in a week, but everything kept escalating... Like a bad pipe job. One part bursts, you fix that part, but then another piece bursts further down the line.
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and now you're probably gone
[ And it seems like he's thinking about it, at least to Gorgug. ]
that's a lot to think about. if you are. i've met people who came here seconds before dying or thinking they were gonna die. and people die here too
and dying makes you think a lot of stuff but it also doesn't feel like you're thinking about anything. kinda like a haze
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[He does not know about revival here, whoops.]
... Did you die before arriving?
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