I don't want her involved in this. She was already hurt fairly recently. I'm not going to potentially put her in danger again just because I couldn't keep my mouth shut.
Closer to other resources than Caitlyn's and the lab.
Great idea, let's add another gun into the mix. Talking about one was apparently bad enough to start this whole problem. The less they- and everyone else- knows about us and what we have, the better.
I'm sorry I dragged Jinx into this. It was equal parts petty and intentional. I appreciate you're trying to have a normal conversation with me about this, but I burned all three of you. You don't owe me pleasantries.
Because throwing books at them if they come for you will be a surefire defense. Though I agree that keeping our skills and technology and knowledge to ourselves is beneficial for our long-term health.
I know you are, and that's the only reason we're still talking. You put your foot in your mouth airing your grievances, but I expect you learned a valuable lesson.
Being in the library wasn't about being able to find the nearest weapon.
[He was counting on a series of diplomatic relationships. This is Harold's library, and he's well-respected enough he ran the assumption most wouldn't come in here guns blazing. Aside from Jinx, but if she was coming for him, then nowhere would be safe, regardless of Caitlyn's involvement.]
I did.
[He is learning the wrong lesson from all of this, actually, and it's "shut down and stop telling people things outside of a very very small circle."]
There's one more thing. I've spoken with Viktor about this and...
If Jinx is going to hold onto the gemstone, then she needs to know how to use it properly. I know she's used it to make weapons, but there's years of trial-and-error that Viktor and I have run through already that it would benefit all of us if she didn't run into them headfirst and alone. If she works with us on that, then you'll never hear a word from me about her keeping it.
Good because there aren't any good ones. You honestly think a kid willing to start a war over your technology is going to stop because it's a library managed be a respected person of the community?
[Vander didn't know Harold well (by name only), but this was an impulsive 15-year-old who believed they were right. A library would not be much of a deterrent in his books (dad joke).]
Good. It's too bad it had to come to this kind of whiplash scenario, but I want to believe you have forward thinking reasoning. Caution is important.
[Jayce, please. How did you manage to be a Councilor and nearly achieve peace if this was the lesson of the day?]
I can't see her giving it up willingly, perhaps momentarily to Silco. Are you telling me this so that I'll help you acquire her agreement or because you're showing me that you want to work with the other side?
Yes. I think the fact he called this off at all is proof he has some boundaries he isn't willing to cross. He respects some people. Just not us.
[Oh, you think all his crashouts are productive?? Welcome to Mental Illness, Vander.]
I'm not asking her to give it up. That's the point. I want her to willingly agree to bring it with her, and agree to work with Viktor and I on safety lessons. She walks away with it at the end of the day; we're just tutors.
Viktor's going to try talking to her first. If that fails, I'd appreciate it if you could nudge things along.
Not us, no. A fact that will have long reaching effect.
[Dude, don't make Vander dad you into submission to avoid a few bad decisions.]
You don't know Zaun very well, do you? Safety lessons? You know how our city operates or has been forced to operate 'safely' for generations, right? I understand your sentiment and I appreciate what you're suggesting, but she's been in control of this and unlocked your technology by herself. Do you think she hasn't investigated the safety of it?
However, I do see the benefit of trying to work together. It's a packaged deal with that one. Showing strategy, so good on you.
[He knows what he means. But he wants Vander to clarify.]
She didn't do it by herself. She had my notes. Decades of research, that she read and fully understood in a matter of two days before making her bomb? Not likely. She skimmed until she got what she wanted. The very definition of 'not investigating the safety of it.'
I mean she is brilliant in her own right. I've seen your notes and I couldn't make hide nor hair out of it even with the picture diagrams.
She's also had these six months to investigate the gemstone. Either way, safe isn't exactly high on our priority list most of the time, not when the bottom line hangs in the balance.
There's no bottom line hanging in the balance here, so that excuse won't fly anymore. Safety needs to be prioritized above all else, especially now. Robin might have backed off, but if this becomes an actual danger, we're going to have more than a teenager to worry about.
We have people here who can kill any one of us Runeterrans with a flick of their finger, invade our minds, destroy the buildings we live in on a random fly-through. Yet, you seem to be defending Robin's line of why he was going after Jinx in the first place. Just say the quiet part out loud, Jayce: Zaunites can't be trusted with power.
You can't be serious. I'm trusting her with keeping the gemstone in her possession, and you still think I'm not doing enough? Because I'm daring to ask her to learn safety protocol? I'd ask this of anyone, Piltover or Zaun.
I think you're smart enough to recognize that she has no plans on returning it to you, especially after this dust up. And keeping her close allows you opportunity to keep an eye on it.
Why did you lend me the gauntlet? I wasn't provided safety training.
Agreed. I am beginning to have the impression that our interactions revolve mostly about what I can convince Jinx to do on your behalf and if I can protect Cait now and again.
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Why are you hiding in a library?
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Doesn't matter.
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Were you expecting someone to attack you?
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I wasn't going to assume it wasn't a possibility someone would.
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Also, why a library? That's an odd place to hide out.
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Closer to other resources than Caitlyn's and the lab.
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Do you need protection?
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I'm sorry I dragged Jinx into this. It was equal parts petty and intentional. I appreciate you're trying to have a normal conversation with me about this, but I burned all three of you. You don't owe me pleasantries.
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I know you are, and that's the only reason we're still talking. You put your foot in your mouth airing your grievances, but I expect you learned a valuable lesson.
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[He was counting on a series of diplomatic relationships. This is Harold's library, and he's well-respected enough he ran the assumption most wouldn't come in here guns blazing. Aside from Jinx, but if she was coming for him, then nowhere would be safe, regardless of Caitlyn's involvement.]
I did.
[He is learning the wrong lesson from all of this, actually, and it's "shut down and stop telling people things outside of a very very small circle."]
There's one more thing. I've spoken with Viktor about this and...
If Jinx is going to hold onto the gemstone, then she needs to know how to use it properly. I know she's used it to make weapons, but there's years of trial-and-error that Viktor and I have run through already that it would benefit all of us if she didn't run into them headfirst and alone. If she works with us on that, then you'll never hear a word from me about her keeping it.
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[Vander didn't know Harold well (by name only), but this was an impulsive 15-year-old who believed they were right. A library would not be much of a deterrent in his books (dad joke).]
Good. It's too bad it had to come to this kind of whiplash scenario, but I want to believe you have forward thinking reasoning. Caution is important.
[Jayce, please. How did you manage to be a Councilor and nearly achieve peace if this was the lesson of the day?]
I can't see her giving it up willingly, perhaps momentarily to Silco. Are you telling me this so that I'll help you acquire her agreement or because you're showing me that you want to work with the other side?
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[Oh, you think all his crashouts are productive?? Welcome to Mental Illness, Vander.]
I'm not asking her to give it up. That's the point. I want her to willingly agree to bring it with her, and agree to work with Viktor and I on safety lessons. She walks away with it at the end of the day; we're just tutors.
Viktor's going to try talking to her first. If that fails, I'd appreciate it if you could nudge things along.
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[Dude, don't make Vander dad you into submission to avoid a few bad decisions.]
You don't know Zaun very well, do you? Safety lessons? You know how our city operates or has been forced to operate 'safely' for generations, right? I understand your sentiment and I appreciate what you're suggesting, but she's been in control of this and unlocked your technology by herself. Do you think she hasn't investigated the safety of it?
However, I do see the benefit of trying to work together. It's a packaged deal with that one. Showing strategy, so good on you.
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[He knows what he means. But he wants Vander to clarify.]
She didn't do it by herself. She had my notes. Decades of research, that she read and fully understood in a matter of two days before making her bomb? Not likely. She skimmed until she got what she wanted. The very definition of 'not investigating the safety of it.'
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She's also had these six months to investigate the gemstone. Either way, safe isn't exactly high on our priority list most of the time, not when the bottom line hangs in the balance.
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We have people here who can kill any one of us Runeterrans with a flick of their finger, invade our minds, destroy the buildings we live in on a random fly-through. Yet, you seem to be defending Robin's line of why he was going after Jinx in the first place. Just say the quiet part out loud, Jayce: Zaunites can't be trusted with power.
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Why did you lend me the gauntlet? I wasn't provided safety training.
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Because I trusted Vi. I thought, "if I can trust Vi with these, then I can probably trust the man her raised her with it."
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I raised Jinx too. Her name was Powder back then.
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If that's how you feel about it, fine. Return the gauntlet, and we'll owe each other nothing.
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